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Posted on: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 at 17:14 Everyone is forgetting that the criminal/genocidal idiot can run wild as soon as the innocent is disarmed. We must apprise the urban, - I hate guns - crowd that this will happen in Canada as soon as all the guns have been confiscated from the honest, lawabiding gun owner, and if you need proof just get the VCR, "Innocense Betrayed", which has been produced by the Jews For Preserving Firearms, [JPFO] and it will show how genocide can be implemented when there is no resistance. I would rather be shot down with a gun in my hand trying to protect my family. Comments by the rifleman from United States - (Report Post - RP) Posted on: Monday, July 09, 2007 at 12:00 it's failed? whys it still there then? i thought our politicians on the left are a bunch of lying pricks. looks like all your politicians are a bunch of lying pricks. did yu see the smug smirk on steven harpers face when he was watching the multi-cultural mess the radicals have created in canada on canada day? sheeeeeeeit!!! Comments by Will from Yukon - (Report Post - RP) Posted on: Saturday, July 07, 2007 at 23:50 Nimrod45 you wont see this in any mainstream media. They say that the Fraser Institute is run by "Right Wing Radicals" who would "destroy all the wonderful socialist programs" installed by the last 40 years of Queerbec LIEBRAL rule INCLUDING MULRONEY! So any article that ever sees the light of day in a paper such as the National Post or a Sun newspaper, will be contradicted by smearing Mauser as a "Right Wing Nut!" And right away the welfare bums in Moronto and Moronreal will be screaming about the "oppression" of right wing radicals. There will NEVER be an honest public debate on the gun issue in ANY Kanadian media. Only little local papers like the one above will carry honest articles. So we had better let the politicians know that we are a force to be reckoned with in the next election and they had better keep their promises. I know I will be working hard in my area and as a matter of fact, do so every day whenever I am in a group of 2 or more!! We all better do the same. Comments by Curly from New Brunswick - (Report Post - RP) Posted on: Saturday, July 07, 2007 at 22:55 Possibly. But it isn't necessary for everyone to figure it out. Only about 38 to 40%. Currently 25% will probably vote conservative no matter what. We need another 15% or so. Comments by CURLY-WHAAAA? from Other - (Report Post - RP) Posted on: Saturday, July 07, 2007 at 21:28 Curly, How in hell can you educate the Liberal public about Truth, Justice and Common Sense? This is an UNACHIEVABLE AND UNATTAINABLE GOAL! Comments by Curly from New Brunswick - (Report Post - RP) Posted on: Saturday, July 07, 2007 at 20:28 The only way we can win this war is to educate the public at large that confiscation is the real goal of the gun registry. Statistics have been provided time and time again that prove the registry does not deter violent crime or suicides, but when presented with this information the anti's do not dispute the figures - they simply change their argument. They issue statements to the media such as the need to keep the registry because "the police use the registry 5000 times each day". The statement is irrevelant (and probably false) but it is diffult to argue against. Since they keep moving the discussion from one topic to the next and refuse to debate any single issue, we are unable to defeat their arguments in a public forum, and the non-firearm owning public are left only with 30 second sound bites by the likes of Kookier. Their statements are sometimes ridiculous but unfortunately very effective in forming the opinions of urban folks because their lives are for the most not impacted in any way by C-68. Most that post here have come to realize that complete confiscation is the real intention of C-68 because our everyday lives are affected by this legislation and we pay attention to what the politicians are doing, but non-firearms people are mostly ignorant of Canada's gun laws and not affected by the legislation; therefore they rely on the media to receive their information and form their opinions. Add to this the problem that a surprising number of hunters keep voting liberal because they do not realize or refuse to face the difficult reality that the Liberals want to confiscate their firearms. Question: does anyone have a quote from Dion in which he asks for a ban on handguns and semi-autos? I read something recently, possibly even on this board (I am guilty of not taking good notes lately) in which he made public his intention to ban semi-automatic rifles. The Liberals have gotten away with harassing handgun owners because they are a smaller percentage of the number of firearms owners, but the business of confiscating semi-autos wil be difficult for them as it will impact the average hunter for the first time. Comments by Wally from Manitoba - (Report Post - RP) Posted on: Saturday, July 07, 2007 at 11:53 I have to say Nimrod45 that confiscation is anything but paranoid, because most types of privately owned firearms have already been confiscated. Pistols, rifles with less than 18 inch barrels, those with more than 10 shot magazines or clips. Hell I think my cooey .22 bolt action can hold about 18 .22 shorts. I guess that means they could confiscate all of my guns eh? So yes, confiscation is the purpose and it has and is still happening. One type at a time. The death of a thousand cuts. Meanwhile criminals can rearm themselves within minutes of getting out of jail on parole or bail. Look at that jerk who shot the girl in Edmonton a few years ago. He had several pistols and before he killed the girl, he traded three unlicensed pistols for getting off. Obviously he had a few more within hours including the .45 that he used to kill the girl. That is what C-68 has done for safety. Only safer for criminals and politicians. (same thing) Comments by Arnie from British Columbia - (Report Post - RP) Posted on: Saturday, July 07, 2007 at 11:40 Nimrod, I rarely turn on this thing on a Saturday, since I work weekends, but I thought I would check on the reaction to my post. Of course I know that we must EDUCATE the public, but we here who read this site, KNOW what C-68 is about and people MUST be made aware that the creatures you mentioned along with the author of C-68 Maurice Strong, world communist leader, KNEW it would be a safety failure and in fact make our country MUCH LESS SAFE! But unless EVERYONE is aware that safety was NEVER the purpose of C-68, we cannot hope to win this fight. The police officers I know and some who I hunt with are fully aware of this. What is more important, when a police officer writes that the registry is useless to FRONT LINE POLICE AND THAT THEY DO NOT USE IT BECAUSE IT IS DANGEROUS, we are talking about those officers who are sent to drug dens, gang houses, crack dens, armed robberies, and domestic violence. In other words, sent in to life threatening situations. THEY are the ones who know it is useless. They are NOT talking about the ass sitters in unmarked cars with laser guns trapping unwary motorists or jaywalkers. THOSE are the "police" who are almost never put in dangerous situations and it is THEY who generate "hits" on the CFC checking vehicle licenses and looking for outstanding traffic or parking tickets. They are NOT real police officers. They are rarely if ever, put in harm's way. But your points are well put and well taken. Keep up the fight. If people like us give up there is NO HOPE. Comments by Old Owl from British Columbia - (Report Post - RP) Posted on: Saturday, July 07, 2007 at 11:33 Not only does big brother want to disarm everybody, consider the fact that they have already taken many rights of the family away. You can no longer raise your child the way you prefer, but you have to adhere to government guidelines, no spanking, no removal of any rights as punishment, the list goes on...... C 68 is the tip of another iceberg.62781 Comments by Nimrod45 from Ontario - Southern - (Report Post - RP) Posted on: Saturday, July 07, 2007 at 02:16 . Arnie: . I don't doubt that Professor Mauser fully understands the base reason for C-68 was and is to confiscate as many guns as possible, but Rock and Annie and Cretin and Paul touted this as a "public safety" initiative. We need to debunk *that* propaganda if we are to make any headway with the great unwashed. . If we keep harping about "confiscation", we just look like paranoid conspiracy nuts to them. Comments by Bayonet from Other - (Report Post - RP) Posted on: Saturday, July 07, 2007 at 00:27 excellent post by everybody.c-68 is nothing more than tool for confiscation.the courts liberals and special intrest groups sold this white elephant to public as anything but,such as the intrest in public saftey or if i saves just one life.The urbanties fell for this hook,line and sinker.What a disgrace. Comments by Arnie from British Columbia - (Report Post - RP) Posted on: Friday, July 06, 2007 at 23:58 I almost NEVER disagree with Professor Mauser. But the primary goal of C-68 was NEVER about safety of the public or police. It was, is and always will be, about CONFISCATION and in that respect, it has succeeded just as the drafters wanted it to. They KNEW it would cost billions, but they didn't care, since safety and cost was never a concern to them. It was a way to harass and cause people to give up hunting and shooting. It was designed and advertised by using our money, to demonize firearms owners and using a biased and left wing press, cause people to give up their sports and many businesses which depended on firearms. Even those who have hidden or buried firearms, have fallen into the C-68 trap. If your gun is buried you can't use it to protect yourself when you need it, so it might as well be in the registry and confiscated, since that is exactly what is going to happen to those who licensed. Worse yet, a witch hunt will happen and those who DIDN'T license, will be hunted down and deprived of their property and livelihoods as surely as you are reading this post. So the gun registry HAS succeeded in its primary goal. Professor Mauser seems to have bought into the propaganda that C-68 was about safety. That was NEVER the case. Comments by Curly from New Brunswick - (Report Post - RP) Posted on: Friday, July 06, 2007 at 17:56 Freedom Fighter, the answer to your question regarding why urbanites can't figure out they really need guns, is that they have lost he ability to think for themselves. Growing up in such a sheltered environment, being bombarded by socialist ideas by a socialist media, being told to simply sit back and big brother will look after them, scared to go out at night, has resulted in a mindless drift from one day to the next. Will they ever wake up? Probably. When it is too late. Comments by freedom fighter from Alberta - (Report Post - RP) Posted on: Friday, July 06, 2007 at 17:47 I meant "rural" counterparts. Comments by freedom fighter from Alberta - (Report Post - RP) Posted on: Friday, July 06, 2007 at 17:46 That's right enough.Stringest requirements for owning firearms have led to a decline in hunting and the shooting sports.There is a movement toward a one world global socialist government as prophesized in the Bible and disarming mass populations is the first step. Anyway,as others here have said,a huge black market in firearms is growing and will continue to grow. Prairiedog,the urban movement to demonize gun owners is soooo stupid.The mindless residents of cities like Montreal and Moronto need guns as much if not more than their urban counterparts WHY? for self protection.Why can't these zombies get that through their socialist-controlled minds? Comments by Mark from British Columbia - (Report Post - RP) Posted on: Friday, July 06, 2007 at 15:35 Professor Mauser is to be commended for his tireless efforts on this issue. He un-biased work is a value to all Canadians. I see that hunting is down in B.C. and the provicial governement wants to increase the number of hunters. No doubt that all the red tape and stigma of gun ownership has helped lead to this decline. Comments by Pete from Alberta - (Report Post - RP) Posted on: Friday, July 06, 2007 at 14:12 Not amazing at all that the cowards in Rottawa continue the assault on firearms owners. It is truly, as Lillian noted many times, an assault on property. The government wants EVERYTHING and before they can confiscate your house or farm or business, they must confiscate guns. That is a worldwide movement spearheaded by the base creature who has vowed to destroy the "capitalist industrial society" and EVERY government leader has subscribed to his monumental theft schemes including Kyoto, the lastest and most monstrous scam ever devised to rob the taxpayers and property owners of the world. Take heed, as this is a battle we must fight against our own money, which they keep taking with more and more, and more punitive taxation on just about everything. It is only going to get worse. Comments by Lillian from Saskatchewan - (Report Post - RP) Posted on: Friday, July 06, 2007 at 12:01 The two billion gun registry is absolutely useless except to criminal political confiscators and run of the mill criminals such as murderers, rapists, bank robbers, home invaders, etc. AND HARPER AND DAY KNOW THIS FULL WELL, YET THEY CONTINUE AND INCREASE THE ASSAULT ON TRADITIONAL FIREARMS OWNERS WITH THE ABOMINABLE C-21 WHICH WILL INCREASE THE HARRASSMENT AND EXPENSE OF THIS TRAVESTY YET DO NOTHING TO DETER CRIMINALS! HARPER, DAY, STOP THE ASSAULT ON PROPERTY RIGHTS AND YOUR LARGEST BLOCK OF VOTERS, AND REPEAL C-68 - AS PROMISED IN YOUR ELECTION CAMPAIGN!!! Comments by Homer from Other - (Report Post - RP) Posted on: Friday, July 06, 2007 at 11:01 Well, duh. Comments by prariedog from Alberta - (Report Post - RP) Posted on: Friday, July 06, 2007 at 08:34 i always post links and stuff like this on the globe and mail. the odd time their censors allow the post through polarizes the forum. i honestly don't think were gonna change anyones mind -as gary says, we're already in the quire-, but we gotta keep up the good fight. one hint is that he mentions an 'urban movement to demonize gun owners'.. i would bet launching an urban gun promotion and heritage movement could be quite successful, but it costs money, time and effort. Comments by Nimrod45 from Ontario - Southern - (Report Post - RP) Posted on: Friday, July 06, 2007 at 08:20 . I'd like for everyone to post sightings of this news story in any of the mainstream media when you see it. . My bet is that this will not see the light of day, except on pro-gun bulletin boards. | |||||
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