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Posted on: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 at 23:35 FUNNY THING,about these liberal armchair pacifists,their bodyguards and security teams are well armed with GUNS-GUNS-GUNS, hypocritical bastards deny us the protection our tax dollars afford them....they oughta put their money where their big mouths are,disarm their security,in the interest of pacifism ! CFC tells gunowners to turn in guns for destruction or renew licences/registration...apply this to liberals automobiles,watch `em squeal!! Comments by the rifleman from British Columbia - (Report Post - RP) Posted on: Friday, November 23, 2007 at 10:21 its not natural for a man to be a pacifist..we couldn't survive,protect our loved ones, or way of life with that kind of mentallity....on the other hand, many of us want to avoid conflict,and thats seems natural too...even if some religious denominations like the amish and quakers will not take a life even to save a life, they will still do something in time of war to help the cause their country fights for....draft dodgers from the u.s are not fleeing some totalitarian regime..our military and the u.s. military makes provisions for concientious objecters, and puts them into non-combat roles which usually make up most of the military anyway... Comments by Mark from British Columbia - (Report Post - RP) Posted on: Friday, November 23, 2007 at 00:54 When I was growing up the Vietnam war was on. The only way you could avoid service was as a conscientious objector or if it was against your religion.Mnay couldn`t prove this and so moved to Canada . It was almost thought of as being weak if you were a pacifist. Most people couldn`t understand pacifism. But now suddenly today, all the Liberals and Bloc and NDP are pacifists! And they have been allowed to become this way because brave men fought and died for them. They would not be willing to fight and die for their freedom. They think there is no need to be vigilante any more. Thats why the Liberals let the military waste away. Sickening. Comments by GUN FREAK from British Columbia - (Report Post - RP) Posted on: Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 23:46 TODAY the fundraisers for the C.P.C. Called,I told them what I always tell them.NO CASH TILL YOU REPEAL BILL C-68,AS PROMISED,AND THAT IS FINAL! (anybody think I`m joking?) Comments by SPADE from Canada - (Report Post - RP) Posted on: Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 23:27 Hey rifleman, There are many fine women in the world but the firearm hating, man hating, femi-nazi Cookier c--ts are f--king things up. Comments by Dumb Liberal analogy. from Canada - (Report Post - RP) Posted on: Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 23:22 Is it better to have a gun and not use it? Or is it better to not have a gun and need it? Or is it better to call 911. Or is it better to make sure your cell phone battery is fully charged so you can call 911? Or is it better to call 911 and hide in the closet while your daughter, wife and dog is being raped by thugs? Or is it better to blast the home invading, drug addled, ex-murderer, recently parolled by a liberal justice system? Comments by the rifleman. from Canada - (Report Post - RP) Posted on: Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 20:13 the men in their late 50's are the remnants of the last generation to be told that guns are a useful and necessary part of a mans life...the good boys in canada now believe the propagandists that are with them from the cradle, repeating certain statements all through their formative years,...and i blame some of it on the out of proportion female influence in all the school and other institutions that boys come in contact with,..the femminists have even integrated the boy scouts, and turned it away from its roots as an organization to train up boys into responsible men who knew their role and duty in life....the bad boys, the psycopaths, and crims being the type of dirtbags they are, are not affected by social pressure,they see the gun as a way to power and ill gotten gain,...rather than freedom,independance and security. Comments by To: Curly from Canada - (Report Post - RP) Posted on: Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 20:12 The jackboots will do whatever the "future" Liberal government demands or orders them to do! With the liberal controlled CBC backing them, they will "record" and "discredit" with great scorn, the legitimate gun owner who gets his doors smashed in and then is home invaded by ERT just one day after his federal firearms licence expired. Comments by Curly from New Brunswick - (Report Post - RP) Posted on: Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 19:26 Exactly Mark. The statistics over the past 9 years are proof that registering rifles does not reduce criminal activity but it hasn't lessened their support for it. Clearly, their support is based on other motives besides public safety. Even when we get a Conservative majority and get rid of the registry we will need to keep fighting. Our most effective way to keep the gun banners away for awhile will be to grow the shooting sports and make sure more people of the next generation participate than our generation. I read somewhere that the average Canadian gun owner is now in their late 50's and we need to change this right away or we will undoubtedly be finished within a short time. Comments by Mark from British Columbia - (Report Post - RP) Posted on: Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 18:34 And I think Harper is testing the waters with this latest move. He must plant the seed first. Comments by Mark from British Columbia - (Report Post - RP) Posted on: Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 18:27 Thats right Curly. This isn`t about public safety or anything like that. It is about harrassing and worrying gun owners so they will not want to be involved with guns and will get rid if them. It is about trying to take guns away from citizens in a "nice" way. The Liberal ,NDP and BLOC are pushing a pacifist agenda, wanting to get rid of guns altogether. They have admitted this and use words like "hate" when talking about guns.The registry is the first step in this process.They like to compare registering cars with registering guns. If your drivers licesne expires, they don`t seize your car. And registering cars has not stopped them from being involved in the deaths of thousands of Canadians.Cars are used to commit suicide, homicide, bank robberies, sexuals assaults, etc. Registering them did nothing to prevent this. Comments by prariedog from Alberta - (Report Post - RP) Posted on: Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 17:40 Forensic scientist takes the stand By Garett Williams Miner and News Thursday November 22, 2007 Bruce Montague’s criminal trial on weapons related offences continued Wednesday with expert testimony from the Centre of Forensic Sciences. Crown witness John Paul Menard, senior forensic scientist at the centre in Toronto, tested more than 20 weapons recovered from the Montague home. One by one he identified and described weapons he tested -- riffles, hand guns and a cross-bow -- and classified them as non-restricted, restricted or prohibited. Several of the hand guns presented fell under the prohibited category, due to a short barrel, based on the Firearms Act, but were legal before 1998, with a licence. One of the guns presented was an eighth of a millimetre short of the cut off. During cross-examination Menard agreed gun owners can find themselves holding prohibited firearms without even knowing it. A number of riffles presented were classified as non-restricted. However, a few that had been modified landed in the prohibited category. Some were found to be too short -- a few with the barrel sawed off and one with the butt-end removed -- and others were modified with a flash or sound suppressors or converted to fully-automatic. Sound suppressors are a prohibited device, however, flash suppressors are not. Menard said he didn’t test the suppressors as flash reducers, only for sound. Defence attorney Doug Christie argued the gun with the butt-end removed was a parts gun and Menard admitted that he tested it with “a slight amount of pain.” He said, as he understands it, there is no law preventing a gunsmith from manufacturing or re-manufacturing guns or requiring them to report when someone brings them a gun without a serial number. However, he said for a barrel to be cut or sawed legally, it should be removed from the gun. Several converted firearms, from semi-automatic to fully-automatic, were also classified as prohibited. Menard said the modifications were some of the best he’s seen in more that 10 years working for the forensic centre and they would have been performed by someone with a strong knowledge of firearms. One of the converted riffles required a pin placed so accurately that a millimetre out in any direction and the gun could fire out of control until all the rounds were shot or it jammed, he said. Menard will return to the witness box today for further cross-examination. Peter Keen is the Crown attorney leading the prosecution. Montague is facing 53 firearms related offenses, including the unauthorized possession and careless storage of non-restricted firearms, explosives and restricted firearms. His wife, Donna, is facing three charges -- the unauthorized possession of a firearm and two counts of careless storage of a firearm. Montague’s constitutional challenge of the federal Firearms Act -- which aimed to strike out sections of the Criminal Code of Canada related to the act, to have their criminal charges dismissed and to have the Firearms Act declared unconstitutional -- was dismissed by Justice John Wright a week before the criminal trial began. http://www.kenoradailyminerandnews.com/News/356471.html Comments by freedom fighter from Alberta - (Report Post - RP) Posted on: Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 17:11 I spoke to me MP Leon Benoit a couple weeks ago.Mr. Benoit said they would eventually like to repeal many of the bad parts of C - 68. (Like there are good parts to this evil law) Anyway,he told me once the registry part is scrapped, they would like to implement lifetime licences, possibly even going back to the FAC. Comments by TICKED ALBERTAN from Alberta - (Report Post - RP) Posted on: Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 16:57 Harper should use an order in council to do everything possible to destroy the registry asap. Since this killing the long gun registry will never pass. Comments by Curly from New Brunswick - (Report Post - RP) Posted on: Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 16:12 C-21 isn't ideal but anything that helps delay mass confiscation only helps us. Although the gov't will still have the licensing records on all of us, without registration the only way for the Libs/NDP/Bloc to disarm citizens is ghrough house to house searches. Although the Canadian public for the most part don't care about registration, they would not accept large-scale door to door confiscation by state police. it would be a real wake up call to the masses and the leftist parties don't want that just yet. They still need more time to whittle down the numbers of firearms owners by eliminating firearms "nicely", class by class, until the numbers of people with firearms is small enough to marginalize and call bad names. The public would then accept door to door confiscation. On that note, see last December's Liberal Party resolutions calling for a ban on all semi-autos, hunting rifles included. God forbid they get back in power. Comments by yeah. from Canada - (Report Post - RP) Posted on: Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 16:06 yeah...and if we have to hide or bury our firearms, the gun grabbers have accomplished one of their goals .....they've won,..in that we can't use them for self defence.....i was watching american news from texas where they played a 911 call where a man phoned to say two black thieves were in his yard and he was going out to confront them... the dispatcher told him to stay inside and the police would handle it....the man said the two men were stealing items out of his garage,and his nieghbors house... the dispatcher told him to stay inside... the man said did you hear that?.. thats the sound of me racking a round into my 12guage... you could hear the man go out and yell at the two to stay back,...and then two gunblasts....he killed both robbers....a texas state trooper was interviewed and said he had every right to shoot them,...they were robbing his neighbors house, and his garage.....scratch two worthless dirtbags. Comments by To: We Know from Canada - (Report Post - RP) Posted on: Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 15:16 A very good point because you will still require a firearms licence. When the licence expires, you are instantly a criminal if you are in possession of registered or non-registered firearms. The Conservatives breifly suggested making the firearms licence lifetime-no renewal required. This suggestion was quashed. The one thing that dumping the registry would do is create another stalling "legal" buffer zone that would temporarily prevent "mass" confiscation of firearms by a future Liberal or NDP government. The fact remains that whether you are licenced or not, whether your guns are registered or not, the Federal and Provincial Firearms Acts pretty much give the police the power to kick in your doors and seize firearms (the ones they can find or dig up) if the law demands it. Comments by we know. from Canada - (Report Post - RP) Posted on: Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 10:53 we know two things....one; that nothing will change other than your firearm will be registered when you buy it, rather than you personally registering it....two; we are not even sure THAT will even happen,..not that it makes much difference anyway..those who registered previously will remain on file,.. and all those under this new proposed system will be registered as soon as they purchase a firearm..... question; are we going to be any farther ahead,..apart from the the actual bother of having to deal with the firearm center? Comments by bidl from Other - (Report Post - RP) Posted on: Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 07:45 abit off topic. the rcmp announced that, in the wake of their killing of Robert Dziekansky at yvr, they are having an independent investigation of the incident by...the opp. they'll get to the truth. Comments by Mark from British Columbia - (Report Post - RP) Posted on: Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 02:47 Thats right real meal deal. It is just fearmongering and the hidden agenda to get rid og guns. I wrote a letter to the editor but I am sure I will be censored. They like to always compare the gun registry to registering cars. How has registering cars stopped them from being used to commit vehicular homicide, suicide, murder, sexual assaults and more. It hasn`t. And neither will the gun registry. It is "smoke and mirrors". Comments by dave from Canada - (Report Post - RP) Posted on: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 at 22:02 Harper would do well to remember the West and alot of the rest of Canada is dead set against the registry! He better not throw it out as a free vote then shrug it off and say he kept his promise like he did with SSM issue! Comments by Bayonet from Other - (Report Post - RP) Posted on: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 at 19:48 RIGHT ON VERN!!!!! 40 years of eastren liberal politics has left this country a morally bankrupt cesspool lacking both good laws and common sense.Lets just get the westren provinces out of this Shithole Comments by prariedog from Alberta - (Report Post - RP) Posted on: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 at 19:27 Defence questions officers about search of hidden room in Montague home During cross-examination of Const. Andrew Bulmer in a Kenora courtroom Tuesday, Bruce Montague’s lawyer Doug Christie attacked the credibility of an OPP search of a hidden room in Montague’s home. By Garett Williams Miner and News Wednesday November 21, 2007 During cross-examination of Const. Andrew Bulmer in a Kenora courtroom Tuesday, Bruce Montague’s lawyer Doug Christie attacked the credibility of an OPP search of a hidden room in Montague’s home. Bulmer said he and another officer counted $405 American and $2,105 Canadian dollars, money recovered from the room. Christie suggested there was well over $3,000 and presented a photo showing a sum of money in a large paper clip, with more money wrapped in a piece of paper beneath it. “That ($2,105) is not what is depicted in those photos and you must have known that,” Christie said. “No sir, I can only refer to the money I counted,” Bulmer replied. During re-examination by Crown attorney Peter Keen, Bulmer said he hadn’t taken any money out of the room. Christie continued to press the issue of the search when he cross examined Const. Randy Belluz, the arresting officer and member of the Provincial Weapons Enforcement Unit. Belluz was the officer who recovered the guns from the room, unloading them, if necessary, before passing them along to another officer, Bulmer, who made them safe and handed them to a third officer, who applied identification numbers and tags. Belluz said Montague told him there was nearly $1,500 in the room, which belonged to his son and asked him to leave it there. Belluz relayed the message, but couldn’t recall if he said it should be left in the room. Christie also pressed him on the arrest, which occurred at a gun show in Dryden in 2004. Belluz approached Montague while he was looking at a saddle and asked him to come outside, so he wouldn’t be arrested in front of a crowd. Montague turned back toward the saddle dealer and reached into his pocket, which raised a safety concern to Belluz, so he grabbed Montague by his wrist and elbow, asked him not to make a scene and directed him outside. Christie argued that when approached by Belluz, Montague said he wanted to buy the saddle first and reached into his pocket for money. Belluz said it wasn’t possible Montague was wearing a rifle at the time of his arrest and it wasn’t until he was questioned outside that the officers learned he brought a .22-calibre riffle to the show. Next, the Crown called an expert witness in Stephen Horwood from Ontario’s Provincial Weapons Enforcement Unit. Horwood testified serial numbers are used to track guns and the most common reason to remove it is to eliminate the history of the gun, so it won’t be traced back to the seller. During cross-examination Horwood said it’s possible to trace a gun back to a seller without the serial number and there is no law requiring a gunsmith to call the authorities if they are working on a gun without a number. The final witness of the day was Const. Mark Sharpe, an OPP forensic identification officer in Kenora. Sharpe was responsible for making a video of the Montague house, before anything was touched by investigators, during the first search and making a video of the hidden room on the second search, before the firearms were removed. The primary function of making a video is to document the scene as it is found, so it can be re-created in a courtroom, he said. There is a 20-minute gap in the video when the hidden room was first opened and the first officer entered to take photos. Christie argued the first officer in the room was out of sight of anyone else, including the video camera for nearly 20 minutes. “Did he take anything,” Christie asked. “I don’t know,” replied Sharpe. Montague is facing 53 firearms related offenses, including the unauthorized possession and careless storage of non-restricted firearms, explosives and restricted firearms. His wife, Donna, is facing three charges -- the unauthorized possession of a firearm and two counts of careless storage of a firearm. Montague’s constitutional challenge of the federal Firearms Act -- which aimed to strike out sections of the Criminal Code of Canada related to the act, to have their criminal charges dismissed and to have the Firearms Act declared unconstitutional -- was dismissed by Justice John Wright a week before the criminal trial began. http://www.kenoradailyminerandnews.com/News/356235.html Comments by freedom fighter from Alberta - (Report Post - RP) Posted on: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 at 19:18 This country could move a little farther to the right.Actually a lot farther.While we're at it,let's dismantle the useless handgun registry that's been around for 75 years. Comments by Real meal deal from Canada - (Report Post - RP) Posted on: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 at 18:58 The Waterloo Record prints a bunch of crap that caters to fearmongered liberal voters. Waterloo is just another liberal cell of a large, left wing, liberal dominated media with the CBC at the top of the heap. Comments by right on. from Canada - (Report Post - RP) Posted on: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 at 18:32 right on brother!!!..after 40 years of liberalism.... it should be our turn now. Comments by VERN from British Columbia - (Report Post - RP) Posted on: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 at 17:51 Across the aisle, the notion that the Harper government hides a secret, hard-right-wing agenda is almost universally accepted by opposition parties as quoted by the Edmonton Journal. NO SHIT SHERLOCK!! WESTERNERS HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF LEFT WING TRUDEAUISM RAMMED DOWN THEIR THROATS. A LITTLE RIGHT WING IS WHAT THIS CESSPOOL OF A COUNTRY NEEDS RIGHT NOW. | |||
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