To tell you the truth Win , the .300 Winchester is a great cartridge - flat shooting in 180 grain bullets as a .270 with 130s. But it is actually pretty close to the top end of my recoil tolerance, that is , if I wish to also be consistently accurate . I have no problem with light weight 12 gauge shotguns and 3" hulls , because it is snap shooting on running rabbits and ducks whistling overhead that i am most comfortable with . 30-30 levers employed on close running deer also present me with little problem. But , .300 wins are the best i agree. So , hang your hat on that handle , it's tops. Plus it is another terrific naming poke at the antis.